Marshall Pruett misses the boat
Posted 1 month ago.
Posted by: Paul
It’s never happened that I have felt the need to offer a rebuttal to another article written here at Planet-IRL, but Planet-IRL does not pride itself in presenting only one side of such a passionate story. My feeling is that Marshall Pruett has a personal vendetta against Brian Barnhart and the current Indy Racing League administration, and he is using the 2012 IndyCar chassis to drive a wedge between the teams and the League where one does not currently exists – at least not to the point that Mr. Pruett would have you believe.
There is no doubt that a new chassis is well past due for the IZOD IndyCar Series. This current Dallara will enter its eighth year of competition in 2010 and it is well beyond dated already. The original plan put the IndyCar Series chassis on a three-year cycle, meaning that a new car should have been introduced in 2006 – and in 2009. Of course, with the downturn in the economy, such investments by the teams were not feasible and for that reason, among others, the IZOD IndyCar Series has been stuck with the Dallara chassis for way too long. To its credit, Dallara became the de facto spec car for the Series because it built a better can than G-Force/Panoz and the market chose it over the Panoz. Had Panoz made improvements, and built a better racecar, we would still likely see two manufacturers today, but I digress… Regardless of how we got here, we are now here and it’s time to get out of this box.
At some point over the past year or so, Ben Bowlby, engineer for Target Chip Ganassi Racing, decided he was going to start formulating HIS idea of what a new IndyCar machine should be, starting from a completely blank sheet of paper. Without limitations of updating a current car and using preconceived notions of what makes an “Indy car” (small “c”), Bowbly formulated a radical design, a revolutionary design that we know at one point had only three wheels. It was truly an “out of the box” design. Somehow, and I don’t know how, this design was circulated to a number of other teams and got the approval of several other team owners in the IndyCar paddock. Apparently, to some folks, that means that a large group of team owners is ready to break away from the IRL.
When Planet-IRL spoke with Mike Hull, managing director for Target Chip Ganassi Racing, a couple months ago, the issue of the 2012 chassis came up, specifically the Delta Wing design put forth by Ben Bowlby. Here is what Mike had to say about the topic:
“We’re racing a car today – a car with an underwing, downforce, big wings front and rear, with some form of either controlled or non-controlled horsepower, the same tires and wheels. If you go find a picture from Indianapolis from 1975 and you take that photo and put it next to a current Dallara, what do you see? You see the same car. The car hasn’t changed since 1975. Now the rule makers, all they’ve done is tweak the rules to keep the speeds to a certain level. They’ve continued to dumb the car down. We’ve shoved ourselves into a corner with a spec car. It’s no fault of the IRL. It’s no fault of the competitors. It’s just the nature of where we’ve been for such a long time. It’s time for a change. It’s time for a real change. Its’ time for innovation to be reactivated following technology. Certainly I’d be an advocate of what Ben Bowlby wants to do because I’ve worked with Ben here at Chip Ganassi Racing for a long time. I believe in what he does because he’s a very innovative, forward-thinking guy, but I don’t want to get sucked into a group-think situation here to where that’s the only answer. The most important thing is to realize that the one thing we’re missing with IndyCar Racing is… we’re into this comfort zone with car technology. Comfort zones is not what created the IndyCar brand. That’s what’s important about the future for Indycar Racing in terms of that and that’s what the IRL needs to look at. They’ll look like heroes if they choose to go down a different path than a revision of the current race car. They’ll look like zeros if they don’t. It’s the reality of where we need to go. We need to push this forward. Whether Ben’s got the right idea or not, all it’s done is open the avenue for discussion.
The entire interview with Mike Hull can be heard here: http://planet-irl.com/podcasts/hull.mp3
That to me sounds like Mike Hull is saying that IndyCar needs to really think outside of the box and come up with something different, but it certainly stops well short of saying “If IndyCar doesn’t select the Delta Wing, we’re gone.” In fact, Mike even admits that the Bowlby design might not be THE answer and definitely shouldn’t be considered as the ONLY answer. Judging from Mike’s words, the goal of the Delta Wing project was to open the minds of League officials, car designs, owners, etc. to the possibility of coming up with something completely different. I don’t want to speak for Mr. Hull or Mr. Bowlby but I never got the impression that further participation in the IZOD IndyCar Series by a majority of the teams was contingent upon the League’s acceptance of the Bowlby design. Has the Delta Wing project caused the League to come up with something totally radical and unlike anything we’ve seen before? Judging by the images of the Dallara concept cars (Seen Here), I would say ‘no’ at this point. Without seeing the Delta Wing car though, as well as concepts from Lola and Swift, it’s hard to know exactly just how radical Mike Hull and Ben Bowlby were thinking when they said IndyCar Racing needs something that represents “real change.”
Now, let me address some other points in Marshall Pruett’s article – the first being this charge that Brian Barnhart has plagiarized the Delta Wing technical concept. I don’t really see a whole lot in the story released by the Indy Racing League (http://www.indycar.com/news/?story_id=15726) that should really be considered revolutionary and beyond the talking points the League has stated for several months. There are only so many ways to skin the cat and honestly, it’s not like one of the points was “The new chassis shall have three wheels.” Look, do I agree with everything that Brian Barnhart does and says? No. Hell, I don’t even agree with everything I do and say. Do I think Barnhart is perfect in his execution of race control? Hardly, but for all his flaws that people point out, I think people would be hard pressed to name any races of which he has directly affected the outcome. None the less, he has a responsibility to shape the future of the sport with the technical specifications that will soon be handed down. It will be his responsibility to determine whether it is time to abandon ship altogether, trash everything that currently exists, and start over completely from scratch or whether it is more appropriate to take something slightly larger than baby steps and work our way towards a better product. Personally, I’m glad I don’t have to make that decision. To best determine the future path of the sport, Brian and the Indy Racing League have laid out a series of six goals that the future car must meet. In laying out those goals, did Brian or the IRL remotely imply that they just came up with these ideas on a whim? If they did, I certainly didn’t see it. Is it feasible, or even probable, that PERHAPS Mr. Barnhart might have consulted with the team owners, yes the very same team owners that comprise the Delta Wing Group, to come up with goals? I have no doubts that Ben Bowlby is a very bright guy but I doubt he is the ONLY person in the racing industry that is qualified to determine what should be required of the next chassis. Mr. Pruett offers no evidence whatsoever that Brian didn’t consult with team owners and other engineers to develop these criteria. Such information would have made his argument significantly more substantial. More to the point, does it really matter who wrote the “rules”? If the point of the Delta Wing Group was to get the League to look into these points, have they not succeeded if their goals have become the criteria by which the new car proposals will be judged?
Perhaps more irritating to me in the insinuation that Brian Barnhart orchestrated the release of the Dallara images to steal the thunder of the Delta Wing presentation at next week’s Chicago Auto Show. I received an e-mail on Thursday afternoon with the images of the Dallara concepts that did not come from Brian Barnhart or have Brian’s name anywhere on it. There was no IndyCar employee named in the CC. Furthermore, I’m pretty certain that I’m on the IndyCar mailing list and I did not receive any communication from the League or Dallara on Friday morning showing these concept cars. If Dallara sent out these images to the entire Indy Racing League mailing list, I need to contact someone at the IRL and figure out why I’ve suddenly been removed from the list. More to the point, let’s get one thing clear here. Brian Barnhart didn’t just bring up the discussion of “parallel development paths” within the last week or two. The IndyCar fanbase has known about these two possible chassis for a long time – since at least last summer and yet the Delta Wing group has insisted that everything about their car be shrouded in secrecy. Why?? What exactly is it that is so top-secret that a.) none of the public can know about it, b.) the only people that do know have had to sign confidentiality agreements and c.) all other design concepts must wait until the Delta Wing is revealed to go public? At this point, the Indy Racing League is down to crunch time before a new chassis has to be decided upon. The common belief is that 18 months is required for adequate research, development, testing, and production of a new chassis and that is an evolutionary chassis. The racing world has likely never seen a leap as radical as the Delta Wing project so it’s likely that such a car could require an even greater amount of lead time. (I do understand that CFD and other computer models would likely reduce the lead time by some margain so perhaps the 18 months is not inconceivable, even for the revolutionary car.) We are now 24 months from the start of the 2012 racing season. Why has the Delta Wing group waited so long to unveil their designs? Furthermore, why should the other manufacturers have to wait to release their concepts until after the Delta Wing group releases theirs? We already know that Switft is planning to release its three concept cars next week, though whether it will be before or after the Delta Wing announcement is not known at this time (though it’s not as if it really matters). Is that because Brian Barnhart forced their hand in a desperate attempt to undermine the Delta Wing faction? Seem like a stretch to me.
Now, allow me to address Jeremy’s criticism of Brian Barnhart directly relating to the “we’ve gotta learn how to crash those cars” quotation. I know that Jeremy knows his racing so I’m really not sure why he threw out this line as if it didn’t make sense. I don’t have the entire transcript of the conversation that had this line in it but I do recall the conference. This was not the entire quotation of Barnhart’s and even if it was, any rational-thinking race fan can see exactly what Barnhart was getting at. Brian Barnhart, contrary to what his detractors might want to insinuate, is in no way whatsoever implying that the Indy Racing League is interested in designing these cars to crash for spectator excitement. Brian was not saying that he wants these cars to have really cool, explosion-y (yes, I know that’s not a word!!!) crashes that make fans Oooo and Ahhh. Anyone without an agenda clearly knows what Brian was talking about in this context. He is referring to the fact that the cars have to be safe and that it is just as important to understand how the car responds to a crash (i.e. breaks apart, distributes engery, protects the driver, etc.) as it is to understand how it responds in turbulent air at 220 mph. Imagine that, looking into the safety of the drivers before accepting a car from a blank sheet of paper and thereby discarding 30+ years of crash response data. That hardly makes Brian an incompetent leader or the buffoon that some would like to make him out to be.
There is a sense among many IndyCar fans that if the Indy Racing League hasn’t turned the corner, it has at least bottomed out. Just since IZOD has come on board, the IndyCar Series has seen more exposure from marketing than it has seen in probably the last 10 years combined. There are more teams all the time that are interested in joining the Series. It finally seems that the split is starting to move into the past and the future is coming a bit more into focus. However, articles like Mr. Pruett’s, which attempt to sow seeds of doubt into the IndyCar fanbase and insinuate that another disastrous split is just around the corner, do nothing but attempt to instill a sense of doom and gloom into a fanbase that is all too familiar with that uneasy feeling. I guarantee that there exists not a single owner in the IndyCar Series that would pursue an alternate series at this juncture. If CART couldn’t make it in 1996, at it’s pinnacle, without the Indianapolis 500, there is no way that anyone thinks a series NOW could make it without The Greatest Spectacle in Racing. I know that. You know that. The team owners know that. And Marshall Pruett knows that. Of course, that doesn’t make it any less imperative that the Indy Racing League and the IndyCar teams work together, as a cohesive entity, to move the sport of IndyCar Racing forward with new, fresh ideas. It is crucial that the League genuinely work with the teams and all other parties to ensure that the product set forth is relevant to current to the automotive industry and continues to produce a good on-track product. Another split in open-wheel racing at this point in time would be the end of the sport, but with the teams and League moving forward together, IndyCar Racing is poised for amazing growth.


Sorry Paul,
But that piece by Marshall has the full backing of those at the very, very top of the food chain in the IndyCar paddock.
Cheers,
Declan
Whereas Mr. Pruett’s rhetoric was certainly over the top, inflammatory, and prejudicial, fundamental points are valid. As you point out in Mr. Hull’s comments, the teams may seek nothing more than to prod the league into forward action. The league and Mr. Barnhart, however, may have a different interpretation. It’s completely understandable how Mr. Barnhart would see the DeltaWing project not as a alternative, but as a threat. Certainly, Dallara would see it as such. The timing of the release of the Dallara concepts was likely not orchestrated by the league, but I would not be surprised if Dallara didn’t have that Feb 10th date firmly in their minds. I think we can all safely discount the accusations of plagiarism forwarded by Mr. Pruett, but the timing of the release of Dallara’s concepts was no accident, and it was a good business decision. Although I agree with you that Mr. Barnhart likely had no role in this release, I’m sure that he rather welcomed it.
Why can we “all safely discount the accusations of plagiarism’?
These “recently” released chassis objectives aren’t anything new. We’ve known that these were the objectives for the new chassis for a LONG time, long before the DeltaWing project was organized. Just because two people are thinking the same thoughts doesn’t mean one person stole those thoughts from the other. The only potential source of plagiarism that is even remotely arguable here is the design of the red concept car that has a decidedly delta-wing appearance, but that’s the limit of it.
Delcan, you honestly are telling us that the only reason BB decided the car should be safe, raceable, cheaper, use relevant tech, be modern looking, and green was because he stole those idea from Bowlby?
It seems like Panther Racing agrees with Marshall Pruett.
I was surprised to see Panther call this a “Great Story” since it slams Barnhart, etc. Maybe there is some serious tension in the paddock between owners and Barnhart and the 2012 chassis. It seems like sides are definitely being picked now
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If you have been reading Declan’s posts here and on Twitter, he has been saying that everyone in the IndyCar paddock feels the same…
While I disagree with much of Pruett’s thesis, what I have a problem with the perception Brian Barnhardt has created. While in public, he seems to be willing to invite all chassis manufacturers to the table, he has backed himself into a corner with Dallara.
Since Dallara has already committed to building the chassis in Speedway, how can Barnhardt deny them the contract to build? He wouldn’t be able to save face in Indianapolis, or Speedway.
His only avenue is to encourage multiple chassis manufacturers, something that, unfortunately, I don’t see happening.
If a series needs only the Indy 500 to make it, then why hasn’t the IRL ever turned a profit?
BRAVO! Well written and thought out.
Am I mistaken or was it not the Delta Wing Group that first said they were going to build their car in the US? If that was such a selling point that Dallara has now “stolen”, why did the Delta Wing Group show their hand so early?
No one plagerized Bowlby’s design principles, he publicly shared them as early as last September as I pointed out.
An interview of Dallara’s Andrea Toso surfaced last Wednesday: nobody saw the need to email you or me or anybody else that a one of the biggest corporations in motorsports was ready to announce a new design.
Dallara, and the IICS, decided when that announcement was to be made. So they did it. Period.
You point out that the League AND Mr. Barnhart set the design criteria, then go on to say that he is the sole responsible party in selecting the new design for the car, and the direction of the future. Wrong.
You claim that Mr. Pruett’s article was an “attempt to sow seeds of doubt into the IndyCar fanbase…” For what purpose? For what gain?
While Pruett’s rhetoric was over the top, there is no reason to question the timing of it. No reason to question the timing of Dallara’s announcement, either.
You are not watching the implementation of great ideals, or the release of philanthropic contributions from innovators.
You are watching big bussines at work. Deal with it.
The common thread of the three contributors to this blog is that they all choose to write agenda pieces, each without careful study or knowledge of the subject matter. They just pick up a straw, and start shooting peas. Fresh from the pod. It’s a podcast.
None for me, thanks.
Andy Bernstein
I honestly don’t care about the politics of this whole situation. The bottom line, for me, is this. IndyCar has been racing the same car for nearly a decade without major fundamental change. That almost never happens in any racing series. So a new chassis is necessary. Who designs it is to me irrelevant. If the teams have issues between themselves and the IndyCar series, those issues need to be addressed behind closed doors. If teams choose to leave the series because the design that they favor isn’t picked, that doesn’t say much for them.
Keep this in mind as well: EVERYONE, myself included, has an agenda. Rather than taking someone’s word at face value-because you agree with some or all of what they are saying-stop and listen to what is being said, and more importantly, who and why they are saying it. I’m not implying anyone is right or wrong-I don’t know any of the parties or the FACTS involved. But then again, I’m not sure any of the other posters do either.
Edward, that is exactly why you have to listen to the individuals directly involved, and evaluate only their words. That’s why I went to such great lengths to quote them in my entry on the previous article.
Then you have to collect and understand the actual facts, and use them as a measuring stick. Reporting has nothing to do with agenda. It is an attempt to present the agenda of those who are making the news.
The rest is all just pea.
Andy Bernstein
Rereading Paul’s post I noticed this line:
“I guarantee that there exists not a single owner in the IndyCar Series that would pursue an alternate series at this juncture.”
How can you guarantee that Paul? Do tell. The reason I ask is that I am aware of how many of the teams endorsing the Delta Wing project feel and I can also identify highly a number of high ranking team personnel who have wholeheartedly endorsed Marshall’s op-ed piece. That’s every word of it, including the idea that a split from the current IndyCar administration is possible course of action. So when you say that you ‘guarantee’ the above, its simply not true and just projection on your part.
Unless you would like to provide evidence other than heart felt conjecture.
Dex
Not only is the link still up at Panther, but they just added that the public debate “sounds clean and healthy” to them.
Declan, tell me about Dan Partel.
Andy Bernstein
Andy,
What about Dan Partel? What do you want to know?
And I’m not sure if what I know of Dan and his time at EFDA is much more than most. I do know that EFDA was a extremely well run, small but effective, body that ran some very good series and events across Europe for more than a decade. I always got the impression that he ran a very tight ship and was in the sport for the right reasons.
The Nations Cup was his baby and the European FF2000/Opel Lotus Series was a launch pad for some of the biggest names in racing over the last 20 years:
Tommy Byrne, Ayrton Senna, Mika Hakkinen, Rubens Barichello, Gil de Ferran, Martin Donnelly, the late great Betrand Fabi (commonly believed to be the next Senna who was killed in an F3 testing accident before the 1986 season), Pedro Lamy, Kenny Brack, Shinji Nakano, Andre Ribeiro, David Coulthard, JJ Lehto, Tomas Scheckter, Mark Blundell, Bertrand Gachot and many more.
I hope that is a help.
Dex
Declan, thank you for your prompt response. There is a lot more to tell than that. Please seek me out on Facebook so that we can estabish private contact. You can find a direct link on Panther’s page in the recent comment box.
Andy
What great debate. Maybe this “battle” or difference of opinions will continue to bring news and discussion about the IZOD IndyCar Series. Ultimately, if the league is concerned about longevity, moving things forward, and making the best decision about the future of the series in its selection of the next chassis, it shouldn’t be Barnhardt or a collection of car owners making the decision. Roger Penske has very seldom been wrong in his decision making and the direction his team goes. Just let Roger decide what will be best for the league. As a fan who wants to see the best decision for the league and its future in all aspects, that’s the guy I trust making the decision.